Monday, December 9, 2013

Obamacare roundup

Yes, you can keep your doctor. but.......remember when we argued over what is "is"?  Get ready for more of the same:

The host, Chris Wallace, said: "President Obama famously promised, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Doesn't that turn out to be just as false, just as misleading, as his promise about if you like your plan, you can keep your plan? Isn't it a fact, sir, that a number, most, in fact, of the Obamacare health plans that are being offered on the exchanges exclude a number of doctors and hospitals to lower costs?"

"The president never said you were going to have unlimited choice of any doctor in the country you want to go to," said the Obamacare architect (Emmanuel- KF)

"No. He asked a question. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Did he not say that, sir?"

"He didn't say you could have unlimited choice."

"It's a simple yes or no question. Did he say if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?"

"Yes. But look, if you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor, you can do that. This is a matter of choice. We know in all sorts of places you pay more for certain -- for a wider range of choices or wider range of benefits.The issue isn't the selective networks. People keep saying, Oh, the problem is you're going to have a selective network--"Rest of article with video of interview

Keeping your doctor?  Don't get too picky.  The Financial Times reports the exchanges are shutting out the better hospitals:


Americans who are buying insurance plans over online exchanges, under what is known as Obamacare, will have limited access to some of the nation’s leading hospitals, including two world-renowned cancer centres.

Amid a drive by insurers to limit costs, the majority of insurance plans being sold on the new healthcare exchanges in New York, Texas, and California, for example, will not offer patients’ access to Memorial Sloan Kettering in Manhattan or MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, two top cancer centres, or Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, one of the top research and teaching hospitals in the country.....

It could become another source of political controversy for the Obama administration next year, when the plans take effect. Frustrated consumers could then begin to realise what is not always evident when buying a product as complicated as healthcare insurance: that their new plans do not cover many facilities or doctors “in network”. In other words, the facilities and doctors are not among the list of approved providers in a certain plan.....

Amid these new regulatory restrictions, says Tim Jost, a health policy expert, insurance companies have had to come up with new ways to cut the cost of their products. In this new era, limiting the availability of certain facilities that are seen as too expensive – in part because they may attract the sickest patients or offer the most cutting edge medical care – is seen as the best way to control costs.... Rest of article

Then there is California. It seems many doctors aren't too thrilled about the exchanges and well, are refusing to participate. The Washington Examiner reported:

An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.

“It doesn't surprise me that there's a high rate of nonparticipation,” said Dr. Richard Thorp, president of the California Medical Association.

We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business would do that,” he said.

California offers one of the lowest government reimbursement rates in the country -- 30 percent lower than federal Medicare payments. And reimbursement rates for some procedures are even lower.

In other states, Medicare pays doctors $76 for return-office visits. But in California, Medi-Cal's reimbursement is $24, according to Dr. Theodore M. Mazer, a San Diego ear, nose and throat doctor.....

Only in September did insurance companies disclose that their rates would be pegged to California’s Medicaid plan, called Medi-Cal. That's driven many doctors to just say no.

They're also pointing out that Covered California's website lists many doctors as participants when they aren't.... Rest of article
 Eyes aren't glazed over yet?  That bastion of right-wing journalism, the New York Times, reported today:

For months, the Obama administration has heralded the low premiums of medical insurance policies on sale in the insurance exchanges created by the new health law. But as consumers dig into the details, they are finding that the deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs are often much higher than what is typical in employer-sponsored health plans.

 Until now, it was almost impossible for people using the federal health care website to see the deductible amounts, which consumers pay before coverage kicks in. But federal officials finally relented last week and added a “window shopping” feature that displays data on deductibles.
For policies offered in the federal exchange, as in many states, the annual deductible often tops $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a couple. 

Insurers devised the new policies on the assumption that consumers would pick a plan based mainly on price, as reflected in the premium. But insurance plans with lower premiums generally have higher deductibles

 In El Paso, Tex., for example, for a husband and wife both age 35, one of the cheapest plans on the federal exchange, offered by Blue Cross and Blue Shield, has a premium less than $300 a month, but the annual deductible is more than $12,000. For a 45-year-old couple seeking insurance on the federal exchange in Saginaw, Mich., a policy with a premium of $515 a month has a deductible of $10,000..... Rest of article

Stay tuned for more updates. 

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Except maybe for the totally naïve, I see no surprises here. The naïve deserve who they elect.

The Libertarian said...

There needs to be a "roundup"...of every criminal involved in this ponzi scheme and public trials.

Anonymous said...

Impeach Obama. He and the demos passed Obamacare based on fraud in the inducement and lies, lies, lies.

Anonymous said...

Apparently the lies are immaterial to the democraps. I've wondered for a long time what has kept impeachment proceedings from being brought against the liar in chief, and criminal charges against his minions.

Lloyd said...

Hmmm...Yea let's impeach Obama and have Joe Biden take over. That will solve all the problems.
That is a scary thought!

Anonymous said...

So, 8:29, you'd leave a tick attached to your ass for fear of causing a scab if you pull it off?Gotta love your reasoning.

Lloyd said...

Well 8:23 AM--sometimes the "cure" is worse than the disease.. A scab I can handle, a full blown gushing hemorrhage will kill you.
That's all I'm saying.
The real cure is conservative republicans taking the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Anonymous said...

Keep dreaming 3:28.

Anonymous said...

Latest Quinnipiac for President Compulsive Liar:

Approval = 38%
Approval 18-29 = 41%
Approval Independents = 30%

Anonymous said...

By the looks of it ol' Barry got his second wife mighty pissed off today.

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