Thursday, November 1, 2012

Voter ID food fight between Governor & Democrats

The Clarion-Ledger reported yesterday the Governor thinks voters should voluntarily show their ID at the polls next week as a form of "protest":


"Bryant has appealed to tea party voters on immigration enforcement and other issues, and AP asked him Wednesday whether he agrees with their proposal of showing ID as a form of protest.

“I think that would be a great idea,” Bryant said. “You know, I almost automatically did that for years and the ladies at the counter would take my driver’s license and look at it and check my address. So, I think that’s a very good idea.

“I noticed the other day that President Obama presented his ID in Illinois before he could vote,” Bryant said. “And if it’s good enough for the president, it’s certainly good enough for the people of Mississippi
.” Article

The Democrats wasted no time in raising hell about his comments as Executive Director Ricky Cole sent out this press release:

"JACKSON-Mississippi Democratic Party Chairman Rickey Cole issued the following statement:

“In an apparent end-run around federal law, Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant today called for voters to ‘voluntarily’: show identification in the upcoming November 6 General Election. Bryant made these statements knowing full well that there is no requirement for identification in this election. By pandering to the tea party extremists, Bryant has deliberately created confusion among voters and election officials with less than six days to go until the election.

There is NO need for voters to show identification at the polls on Tuesday. Elections officials and poll workers have already been trained to that effect. Bryant’s comments create unnecessary confusion, and will likely result in delays at the polls November 6. We demand that he retract his comments immediately, and that the three members of the State Elections Commission issue a joint statement to the public that NO identification will be required on Tuesday
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23 comments:

Shadowfax said...

You DEMAND, Ricky-Boy? Tough. Stay up late watching for the retraction.

By the way. I'm always asked for my address after I state my name. Even when I point to my name on the books and there is no other similar name, I'm asked for my address. Isn't that requiring me to ID myself?

Anonymous said...

Good point, Shadow. The cashier at the grocery told me to refrain from showing my ID with my credit card because she knew me already. The voter ID is not the problem. The problem is the major political parties that create the big deal about non-issues...really silly stuff to raise money on and take up the valuable time of our governments.

Nuff2Say said...

I will have my ID out and ready to show... done it each election... putting a good shine on it right now!!!

Anonymous said...

"Bryant made these statements knowing full well that there is no requirement for identification in this election."

And Bryant never said it was required.

If Ricky Cole doesn't understand an "SAT word" like "voluntarily" he is even dumber than I had previously believed.

Anonymous said...

I have always handed my license to the person with the book. It helps them, they can see your name, find it in the books, check your address, then when they hand it back to you, there's your picture to prove its you.

The people at the polls have always thanked me for doing it, every single election.

My answer back - no problem at all. I'm protecting my vote and helping you at the same time.

and voter id is not a non-issue. Scan the reputable news feeds for the last 4 years---I think the only being who hasn't illegally voted is the bear in the woods.

Anonymous said...

Funny that Cole and Ladd and Freeland and all the rest of the vociferous pro-election fraud crowd haven't bothered lately to mention South Carolina's recent VoterID federal court win.

VoterID is coming to Mississippi. It is only a small matter of time.

Anonymous said...

The MS Tea Party joins Gov. Bryant is suggesting that we all make a statement next week and show a photo ID when voting.

If it's legal to require Obama to show his in Chicago, it's only fair that it be legal here.

After all there's this concept in the constitution called equal protection under the law.

Anonymous said...

“In an apparent end-run around federal law, Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant today called for voters to ‘voluntarily’: show identification in the upcoming November 6 General Election. Bryant made these statements knowing full well that there is no requirement for identification in this election.

By pandering to the tea party extremists, Bryant has deliberately created confusion among voters and election officials with less than six days to go until the election.


If voters are confused about what the words ‘voluntarily’ and requirement mean, then perhaps we need to rethink this whole voting issue altogether. Perhaps the ruling class can simply tell the voter who they will be voting for so they won't have to think for themselves and become confused about such things.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure I have ever seen such willful ignorance before. Why doesn't Bryant ask everyone to voluntarily bring their passport to the polls? Or voluntarily bring their Social Security card? Or bring a set of fingerprints?

He is purposefully trying to muddy the waters and confuse people, hoping that those without proper ID's will just stay at home. That is not the role of the Governor. He should clearly state what the law requires or STFU.

Anonymous said...

11:33, you think voters are that dumb, huh? I voluntarily show my ID with pride. I don't understand why this is a big deal. The sanctity of the vote is very important to me. The Governor did nothing wrong by asking people to voluntarily show ID. Why the outrage?

JimAtTheRez

Anonymous said...

The politically pagan would win a majority every time if not voting was considered a vote of 'no candidate listed'. The political class believes in themselves... And we call this self-government?

Anonymous said...

Wow. You libs / progressives sure are vitriolic today.

Shadowfax said...

11:33; what 'willful ignorance' are you talking about? Bryant is obviously aware of the law, so it cannot be HIM that's ignorant. Cole says he's aware of the law so he must not be ignorant. That leaves you.

Anonymous said...

I would like some of you to get a voter ID for your elderly parent who is mentally fine but physically declining and who hasn't driven in more than decade.
You'll all enjoy paying for a new birth certificate when after hours of searching through 75 years of papers can't find the old one or an old license . Taking time to do that between taking time to get your parent to doctor's app'ts,buying groceries, doing laundry ,and paying all their bills as their eye sight is going just isn't time consuming enough. Taking the parent with you to vote on election day only adds a hour or two away from your job and family as it is. I've got all the time in the world as far as you guys are concerned.

Thanks guys, I needed to deal with more red tape. I don't jump through enough hoops for my elderly parent now. And, why am I not surprised, given that I never seem to see GUYS with their elderly parents at the doctor's office, that you males came up with this?

Please don't increase my time standing in line pushing the wheel chair while you arrogantly show your ID.

She lost a son in Korea, and voting really matters to her so I'm hoping to find time and extra money to please you jerks who haven't bothered to look at why Indiana has the lowest turnout in the country. I certainly don't want to wear us both out more waiting for all of you to reach into your wallets to make a point at our expense.

My sister-in-law enjoyed getting ID for her paralyzed son in Texas...football injury. His daily care wasn't time consuming enough. At least, she had his birth certificate. But, she doesn't like you voter ID jerks much either.

And, where's the beef? Where's the evidence of massive fraud that changes outcomes? If you are going to make my life harder, then don't do it on rumors , and political excuses for losing...prove it.

If we are going to match Indiana's dismal voter turnout among their eligible voters since their voter ID has been in effect, I want some FACTS!

Maybe I'll just commit fraud. One of my friend's mother died and if there's an old ID in her house, maybe no one will notice the difference in old white haired ladies in glasses!

Shadowfax said...

8:59: So, now you libs have changed the mantra from "Where's the evidence of fraud' to 'Where's the evidence of MASSIVE fraud'. You're progressive alright.

Anonymous said...

8:59, You make me sick. The very idea that you are just to damn *important* to help another person, let alone your own mother.

Maybe your children will see how you act and think, and will return the love and kindness that you, cough, offer.

I would walk through fire for my parents. It would be a privilege. It would be an honor to help any elderly person or handicapped person.

the mindset that you and your kind have is unbelievable. It will always be give it to ME, its MINE, the most important thing in the world is ME.

Anonymous said...

8:59, STFU about this birth certificate crap. You don't need a birth certificate to get the free ID. Of course, a name for this old person in the wheelchair will never be produced. All propaganda ... or trolling.

Anonymous said...

8:59 nice try, but not very convincing to those of us who understand this stuff. Your "elderly" mother - are you supporting her out of your own pocket or is she getting support from two government programs, namely Social Security and, since you bitch about doctor's appointments, Medicare? If elderly means "over 65", as it does to most of us, then she qualifies for both of those, and those programs are only for US citizens.

So, if she's on them, HOW DID SHE PROVE HER IDENTITY AND CITIZENSHIP?

Whatever she used, use it again.

Speaking as a proud penis possessor, (yes! a male!) who went to his demented mother-in-law's appointments because his wife couldn't usually make it, and who took care of the Medicaid paperwork, I know how the system works.

Put on your big girl panties and deal with it.

PS My kids' birth certificates cost $6 each and came in a week.

Anonymous said...

um, if people are "confused" about voter ID then I say they are to damn stupid to vote in the first place. Like Ron White say's, "you can't fix stupid"....

Anonymous said...

6:59 am...put a Medicare card on the voter ID list in the law. It wasn't on the list on the Internet when the bill was passed.

My father was still alive when they qualified and he did the applications for Social Security and Medicare.

There's were no photos on my mother's Social Seurity/ Medicare cards and neither were on the list of accepted IDs. And, my husband and I don't do Medicare as we still have a great insurance plan through his work and don't want to draw off government funds. But, all we got was forms to check if we wanted parts A and/or B. No photo was asked of us. So I doubt Medicare cards have photo ID.

I don't know if we can get a birth certificate for my mother. Records weren't kept so well in 1924. My friend had to get census records and church records when her mother needed a birth certificate. They wanted to take her to Normandy.

Indeed, my mother's been on SS for 20 years since Daddy died and I'm not even sure we had photos on driver's license's yet then.

And,yes , I pay many expenses out of my pocket, and if it's $6 now instead of $15 as it was last time I got one for my passport, great. But, I happen to know that for some elderly people, $6 is real money. My mother is lucky.

And, some of you need to spend some time talking to the elderly.



Kingfish said...

I posted the 1940 census on here Friday. Get off your butt and go look her up on there.

And I take care of a Grandmother too who suffers from alzheimers and dementia. Quit your whining. You will get NO sympathy AT ALL from me. None. Nada. Zilch. Suck it up and as Mac said, put on your big boy britches.

Anonymous said...

So your mother isn't voting, KF,surely.

Census data wasn't listed as acceptable proof. That'd be helpful as would many of the " proofs" Indiana has and which I suggested to my representative and to the SOS office be included. You can go to their site and see the list.

If your mother wasn't born in MS, how are you going to get an "instant birth certificate" at the circuit clerk's office as I was advised?

I would not trade places with you, KF, but my husband's mother had Alzheimer's .It was far sadder but far less demanding on time . My husband was working and couldn't help much so it was me.

My hat's off to you if you are spending hours in doctor's offices and cooking meals and doing home maintenance and shopping for your mother as well as the finances all by yourself. I hope you've not spent as many nights in hospitals during a health crisis or surgery as I.

But, you still miss the point that not all elderly people have a child like you or me to help them with this.

And, if this were REALLY about voter fraud, the simplest solution is to require death certificates be reported to the Election Commission to remove the names of those who die in this state from the roles( in the computer age that's a quicker and cheaper way to go) and to present proof of district residence via homestead exemption or a rental lease form.

No one's mentioned the costs of providing voter IDs to people.

It is illogical that if someone was determined to vote fraudently, they couldn't, oh...get a census record for a dead person and get that voter ID. Or, pay a college student who's registered in another state for use of their college ID.

I'll do what is needed for my mother as I always have since our roles reversed as long as I'm physically able.

Fortunately, she thinks , unlike some of you, I do a great deal to make her comfortable and her end days good .Her approval is enough for me.

She'll vote. But, I know not all of her friends had( yes , none left now) someone like us . Their families weren't here anymore.

She's also madder about this voter ID than I am.

I admit that since I'm over 65 myself and have a few health problems of my own, that I'm tired and occasionally wallow in moments of self pity as I did here. I have trouble finding enough hours in the day. I admit, selfishly, want to spend more time with my grandchildren and husband and my friends as I'm missing much . I get that you all think that makes me an awful person instead of human. But, perhaps you should look up the stats on family care givers.

But, this is my last effort on this as my cousin whose given me a respite leaves tomorrow.



Anonymous said...

If you want to commit voter fraud, just ask any underage teen or illegal alien how to do a fake license.



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